For those seeking to move outside of the United
States, figuring out the best country to move to can be a very daunting task.
There are a ton of social, cultural, economic and safety issues to be
considered. In addition, those who have never been outside of North America
should not underestimate the severe "culture shock" that can take place when
moving to another nation. While moving outside of the United States may seem
like an attractive alternative, the truth is that it is not easy and it is not
something to be done lightly. But there have been many Americans who have done
it successfully and are now loving life. Our recent article,
"Is
Moving Out Of The United States A Way To Escape The Coming Economic
Collapse?", generated some really great comments about what various areas of
the world are like for Americans who move there. Today we wanted to share with
you some of those comments. These commenters have some very strong opinions
about where the best places for Americans to move to are, but the reality is
that each person and each situation is different so keep that in mind as you
read these....
Saigonbrian:
I’ve lived in China, Vietnam, and am currently living in Malaysia for the
last few years. I’ve also traveled extensively during that time. Given the
likely future problems in the US it’s certainly prudent to at least evaluate an
alternative.
Our top two choices would be New Zealand (NZ) and Costa Rica (CR) with
Malaysia coming in 3rd. NZ and CR are both beautiful countries and pretty much
self-sufficient in needed resources. English, of course, is the language of NZ
and it is widely spoken in CR. Though if you choose a country where English is
not the native language; you’d be way better off learning the local
language.
Some other options would be: Thailand; a beautiful very expat friendly
country. Indonesia, in particular Bali. Vietnam and Cambodia would be OK for the
more adventurous and they are cheap, cheap. Australia is fine, though the prices
are pretty much US level. Singapore is nice if you want to live in one big city.
Malaysia is interesting. It tries very hard to get expats to retire there. They
have a formal program called “Malaysia My Second Home” (MM2H). You apply for it,
and if you meet the criteria, you get a 10 yr, unlimited entry visa. There
should be no trouble renewing it. You need to keep about $30,000 USD in a local
bank account, buy a home that costs at least $175,000 USD, and have an income of
$3,000 a month. I suspect these requirements will lessen. The program is
relatively new and the government hasn’t seem to have chosen which expat group
they’re really targeting: rich foreigners, well off investors, or retirees with
more modest moola. The country is beautiful and fairly cheap to live in. We have
a gorgeous 5,000 sf apartment with great, modern security features. Did I
mention it’s on the beach with amazing views. The cost? About $2,400 USD a
month!! Our electric bill, and we run the aircon a lot; is $25 bucks. We haven’t
used our health insurance yet, as we’d not hit the deductible limit and the
prices are very cheap. And the quality of care is 1st rate. My daughter twisted
her ankle recently so we put the system to the test. The initial exam by an
orthopedic surgeon, xrays, and a soft cast cost about $35 USD! Follow-up visits
with the orthopedic surgeon cost $9 USD! Pretty darn good. My primary concern?
The worry that the country will become too islamic. It is the official state
religion though now it does treat the Chinese and Indian minorities relatively
fairly. I’m just not sure it can resist the tendency for islam to become more
intrusive and radical. Hopefully not, but the jury is still out.
Overall I’d suggest doing some research and find a few contenders. Then go to
these places for a vacation. That will give you some 1st hand data. One thing
you notice living overseas is that Americans are the least adventurous, 1st
world; folks. We need to get over that.
Bon voyage!
Gringo in Brazil:
I recently made the move to Brazil with my family based primarily on the
social and economic factors I witnessed and experienced. In Michigan, I found my
business drying up, my home value plummeting, the job market disappearing, etc.
More importantly, if the youth I saw at the malls and high schools are any
indication of the future leadership of our country; we are in serious trouble.
With less than 50% of our youth even graduating from High School, how do we
stand a chance.
Fortunately I speak fluent Portuguese so I am able to adapt. I am earning
about $1,300/mo plus commissions which is enough for a simple apartment and
living expenses. My wife is looking for the right job and should be able to earn
about the same which will afford us a modest lifestyle.
Most Americans couldn’t cope with the heat, mosquitoes, open sewers, long
lines, hellish traffic, and other cultural issues, unless they could afford to
live in a luxury neighborhood and have a maid and personal assistant. However,
the outlook here in Brazil is very positive. Most young people are investing in
their education and advancement. I liken it to stepping back 70 years in our
country and being on the verge of a great industrial revolution that I can be a
part of. I have decided it is better to be starting at the bottom of the hill,
climbing towards the top, then to be at the top and sliding out of control
towards the bottom.
If you can afford it, do what my wife and I did, we took a two month
“vacation” a couple of years ago, rented a furnished apartment and did a trial
“residency” in which we had time to evaluate the pros and cons. When we moved
here last month, we were well prepared, knowing what we were getting into,
bringing along the necessary items and resources to be able to live relatively
comfortably.
If you can master the native language sufficiently (or take an immersion
course when you arrive for 6 months), you can often get a job at a language
school, or company needing bi-lingual workers or professionals. Best bet is to
scour the classifieds online ahead of time so you have something guaranteed when
you arrive.
Kenneth:
Australia is the best country in the world to live in. This is the statement
of Australians who have been to USA and other countries. It is what USA used to
be years ago. It will be a few years before Australia becomes like USA. USA has
left its Christian roots and I am afraid there are those who will make sure it
never goes back.
AsiaExpat:
Singapore is the best place to live and work. It has a real future and very
reasonable taxes. Peaceful, modern, they even speak English (kind of). Bring
your best attitude and a necktie, because you have to work and you have to be
kind to your neighbors. Who wants to be cloistered nervously behind a wall,
anyway?
Bill:
Best places as far as quality of life? Social Democratic countries like
Scandanavia- Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark.
If language is a problem Canada would be the closest best choice, then
Australia, New Zealand, and for Central America, Costa Rica would be the number
one choice for climate, civility, medical care and a beautiful environment.
For most places that provide good quality of life, expect to pay high taxes,
which most civilized countries, yours excepted, equate with civilization. I’m
afraid you folks are letting your inherent selfishness, ignorance of other
cultures, militarism and a “screw you Jack, I’ve got mine” mentality destroy
you.
Better than moving, stay there and try to turn things around. You have too
much that is still good to lose it all. We’re all hoping-well, your firends are
anyway- that you’ll pull out of this before its too late.
Time is running out
folks.
Mongoos:
Not all Americans are “ugly Americans.” We are guests in the host country and
most expats act as such. I retired in Sept 2009 and plan on living, teaching,
and writing in Thailand. I have lived and worked overseas before, so this is
nothing new for me. You make do and blend in and stay out of trouble. Leave your
attitudes and preconceptions at the door when you check in. Otherwise, you will
be creating problems for those of us who wish to live in peace and enjoy the
pleasures of a different culture.
James:
There are over 100,000 Americans living in Costa Rica and loving it. Things
are getting stronger here everyday and in most schools they teach English for
half the day and Spanish for the other. The majority of the people like
Americans and if you want to have it shipped here you can get everything here
that you can get there. WalMart is the largest retail chain here as well as
there.
This week Costa Rica moved ahead of the US in medical care. A huge % of the
national income is from Medical Tourism. They are using adult stem cell
treatment here to cure MS, Heart Decease, diabetes, Spinal Cord Injuries, Cancer
and many other conditions. A good source for getting information on Costa Rica
is the Association of Residents of Costa Rica.
http://www.arcr.net
They have a seminar once a month that brings in Doctors, Lawyers, Dentist,
Shippers, Realtors, Investment Councilors and many other experts to brief you on
the pros and cons of moving to Costa Rica. There are many communities here that
are all American and the “Culture Shock” is nonexistent. The weather is perfect
and they have never had a hurricane.
Bruce:
We moved to the French Riviera 10 years ago when we retired. Cost of living
here in Nice is much less than New York or any other major American city. We’re
on the sea, a big plus, near Italy, also a big plus, and we enjoy terrific food
that we can afford. The medical system in France is incomparable and truly
inexpensive compared to the U.S. We calculated our fixed living expenses for the
year: it came to 11,000 Euros, or about $15,000 for all our taxes, medical
coverage, utilities, condo fees, dentistry, etc. We live in a 2 bedroom top
floor condo with a very large terrace and 2 balconies. There’s plenty of money
left for travel, dining out, movies, and quick jaunts up to London and Paris for
culture and ethnic food (especially London). Don’t regret the move at all.
John:
I moved to Ensenada Mexico in 2000. It was the best thing I ever did for my
future because there is no future in America. I now enjoy more freedom than I
ever had in the US. Spanish is easy to learn and the people are much more
friendly here. There are lots of ex-pats here also. In the coming years the US
is going to be the worst place to be. Escape now while you still can.
AmericanInOz:
I am an American that immigrated to Australia in 2001 (after Bush took
office). My wife and I didn’t like what we saw coming. Politically, culturally,
financially and socially.
When Big Media first started covering the US’s economic problems here in 2008
they drug out the old phrase “When America catches a cold Australia gets a flu”.
Two plus years on and this couldn’t be further from the truth. The economy here
is going great guns, and demand from Asia and a better government are a good
part of the reason.
House prices are having solid gains every year, unemployment is reasonably
steady, and the federal reserve is trying to raise interest rates to cool the
economy (.25% again today)
To that point, the government here doesn’t subsidise 30 year fixed mortgages
the way they do in the US, so they can still manage the economy by slightly
manipulating interest rates. The longest you can fix a mortgage for is 5 years,
at a very high premium, so most people don’t.
America has become an after thought, if not the laughing stock, of many
Australians. It saddens me to see how far everything has fallen over there. I no
longer try to defend the US or the American people. The time for real public
outrage passed many years ago, and I have not only given up on the government,
but also on the people themselves. So many dear family and friends spend their
lives watching TV while their freedoms, lifestyle, culture and wealth were/are
being destroyed around them. Ignorant and apathetic to the realities of the real
world. Living with some strange notion of the past as if it represents the
present.
Not all is doom and gloom here. And although it could still come, if it does
it will have little, if nothing at all, to do with the problems in America.